tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post2373792553441685878..comments2023-10-29T08:17:42.840-07:00Comments on Childfreedom: Update: The Hotel RepliesChildfreeeeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01776614837813912148noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-48575922716896345562009-06-04T14:17:06.443-07:002009-06-04T14:17:06.443-07:00Two more questions for "Mimi", which ha...Two more questions for "Mimi", which have been implied but not yet addressed:<br />Why do you think that a minority ( in our case, the Childfree ) is "angry" just because we stand up for being considered equals, and have a low tolerance for inappropriate social behavior? I guess you wouldn't get angry if you were denied maternity leave by your boss, or a seat on a crowdedStayTheCursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465027622381967869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-53268226112578332152009-05-29T11:23:28.497-07:002009-05-29T11:23:28.497-07:00"Second, who is treating you like pariahs?"
If yo..."Second, who is treating you like pariahs?"<br /><br />If you are as open-minded as you claim then certainly you are observant enough to know that society as a whole is NOT supportive of childless-by-choice couples. The idea is persistent and perpetuated that we're somehow weird, heartless, or unenlightened. Childfreeeee has posted numerous articles illustrating society’s collective pronatalistdjmisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16004501762436897210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-66664806928190484742009-05-28T12:55:21.505-07:002009-05-28T12:55:21.505-07:00"My last point is that if you are so happy with yo..."My last point is that if you are so happy with your life, who cares what others say or think about you?"<br /><br />It's not just what others say or think, it's what they do based on what is said and thought, and how society (and government) are organized to foster childbearing. It is not a basically neutral environment where a few people say nasty things: there are major tax credits for fireflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288800598812287691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-42858781069779740602009-05-28T09:54:54.796-07:002009-05-28T09:54:54.796-07:00To answer your question about stork parking, my op...To answer your question about stork parking, my opinion on that is that I think it's just a gimmick that stores are using to get more business however possible. I have never used it but I don't get angry at others for using it. I prefer to park far away and walk b/c I try and squeeze in exercise whenever possible, even with my baby. I think it's just more of a courtesy thing, like opening the Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488304208132794288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-63779985553015326392009-05-28T02:04:52.296-07:002009-05-28T02:04:52.296-07:00Thanks for your reply Mimi. It helps me to unders...Thanks for your reply Mimi. It helps me to understand your point of view. I am glad to hear that you do not expect to be catered to just because you have children. I assume then that you do not agree with stork parking?<br /><br />Childfree people may be a bit angry and bitter but aren't all marginalized groups? And shouldn't they be? That's what incites change in society. Do you think women Childfreeeeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01776614837813912148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-46285340121876291732009-05-27T16:47:12.971-07:002009-05-27T16:47:12.971-07:00I suggest cursing loudly in front of Mimi's childr...I suggest cursing loudly in front of Mimi's children, telling them they look stupid, talking about sexual positions and how Santa Clause doesn't exist.<br /><br />If she whines about it, say, "You can't control how other people behave so why get angry about it? Yes it sucks but eveywhere you go there will be other poeple who hate your kids, so you can decide to get all angry about it every time Phoenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05174871050139515912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-4328709840673745522009-05-27T16:16:54.990-07:002009-05-27T16:16:54.990-07:00So Mimi:
If you pay money for a babysitter so tha...So Mimi:<br /><br />If you pay money for a babysitter so that you can enjoy an evening out without your children, don't you find it the least bit annoying that others do not? I know that if I were a parent, I'd be greatly irritated by that irresponsible behavior.CFVixenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00777723818313211020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-52621196098538035572009-05-27T14:28:47.478-07:002009-05-27T14:28:47.478-07:00Yes, to answer your question, I came upon your blo...Yes, to answer your question, I came upon your blog one time from the babycenter.com website on a post about stork parking. I didn't realize that there were people out there so angry and bitter at others for having children, etc. My best friend is childfree or childless or whatever you want to call it so I shared your site with her and she reads it now. To be clear, I also get irritated at Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488304208132794288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-71178418808043348742009-05-27T13:57:53.333-07:002009-05-27T13:57:53.333-07:00Why get angry? Well, if I was at a Chuck E. Chees...Why get angry? Well, if I was at a Chuck E. Cheese, I wouldn't. That's the appropriate venue for out-of-control children and clueless, permissive parents. But yes, I tend to get a little angry when I get dressed up and go to a 5-star hotel for a sophisticated, elegant experience only to have to yell across the table to speak with my husband because he can't hear me over all the chaos in the Childfreeeeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01776614837813912148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-19565322717947549062009-05-27T13:40:38.379-07:002009-05-27T13:40:38.379-07:00Actually, no, I do not take my children out to res...Actually, no, I do not take my children out to restaurants at all and if we do they certainly don't act that way or my husband will lay the smack down! I do agree that parents need to discipline their children better, especially in public, but the bottom line is that you can't control how other people raise their kids so why get so angry about it? Yes it sucks but eveywhere you go there will be Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488304208132794288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-71575969692147366442009-05-27T12:06:23.547-07:002009-05-27T12:06:23.547-07:00I had a request for "Mimi" - next time she throws ...I had a request for "Mimi" - next time she throws a party or attends a formal event like a wedding ( assuming she's still invited to these things, given the type of parent I think she may be ), please make the time, date, and address public. I will arrive and behave exactly the way the children I mentioned in the letter did. And she'll see that I was a WELL-BEHAVED child..once! Enjoy your StayTheCursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465027622381967869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-9451200675905356062009-05-27T11:55:08.304-07:002009-05-27T11:55:08.304-07:00This letter is more of a canned pile of brown goo ...This letter is more of a canned pile of brown goo than the syrup their namesake factory makes a few miles away..the letter was 'signed' not by a human, but by "Hershey Entertainment And Resorts". Think there's a chance they own the amusement park, too?! I guarantee this was deleted by the low-level clerk who opened it..Until their guest roster drops off for the reasons I cited, nothing will StayTheCursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465027622381967869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-4810551900311542252009-05-27T11:54:07.830-07:002009-05-27T11:54:07.830-07:00Mimi,
Yes, I was a kid. And I had parents who a...Mimi, <br /><br />Yes, I was a kid. And I had parents who actually supervised me and prevented me from running around like a wild ape in upscale restaurants.<br /><br />Would I be off base in guessing that you are the type of permissive parent I complained about?Childfreeeeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01776614837813912148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-46509396274610134732009-05-27T11:51:08.063-07:002009-05-27T11:51:08.063-07:00BINGO!BINGO!Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695173188736074202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-21463878298665080462009-05-27T11:22:34.059-07:002009-05-27T11:22:34.059-07:00Maybe instead of waiting around for a response to ...Maybe instead of waiting around for a response to a letter, you guys should decide never to go out into the world again because heaven forbid there may be parents and children out in the world. Let me see, you were actually a child once too (gasp!).Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488304208132794288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-76018301465376312342009-05-27T09:59:24.149-07:002009-05-27T09:59:24.149-07:00Yeah, I hate those canned responses!
Hopefully th...Yeah, I hate those canned responses!<br /><br />Hopefully they really do take a little time to address the issue...Gumbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777638943346918789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6155688048560818982.post-1644691928034862282009-05-27T09:50:33.805-07:002009-05-27T09:50:33.805-07:00Sounds like a generic form letter to me, but it's ...Sounds like a generic form letter to me, but it's good that they took the time to copy and paste... ;)Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695173188736074202noreply@blogger.com